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clayton

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:41 pm
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I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
(I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
driveway that may be challenging for the Corvette by next month.) My
impression from the J.D. Powers Initial Quality Survey numbers is that
2002 and 2003 X-types had LOTS of problems, but that 2004 and 2005 were
quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
might shed some light on this?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:13 pm
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> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
> driveway that may be challenging for the Corvette by next month.) My
> impression from the J.D. Powers Initial Quality Survey numbers is that
> 2002 and 2003 X-types had LOTS of problems, but that 2004 and 2005 were
> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
> might shed some light on this?

I also own a vette, which we don't drive in the winter months...for that
matter we don't drive it much in the summer either... anyway
We own a 2002 jag x-type 2.5 engine..... had it about a year and a
half....so far its needed a new radio because the display was missing a line
or two of its display.... its also needed to have the a/c ground wire
tightened as its come loose, and now (just today) we picked it up from
needing a blower motor.
If you are considering buying one, also consider buying the extended
warantee. We bought one and have needed it. Its not the extended warrantee
from jaguar, so ours is not all inclusive, but it does include much of the
vehicle (its one of the better ones). I was told (by the jag service guy)
that the jag extended warrantee covers pretty much bumper to bumper where
others do not, but that may just have been sales talk out of his mouth....
Are we happy with it? Well my wife loves the car... im not that
impressed.. but to me, I don't get impressed that easily with vehicles these
days. I can't speak for newer years, and I can't say ours is a lemon, but
if we didn't have the warrantee, the car would be history by now....parts
are not cheap for it.

Hope this helps..

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Blake Dodson

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:35 am
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JimInsolo wrote:
> If it's a 2002 and you've had it a year and a half, then someone else owned
> it for a couple years before that- maybe they got rid of it for a reason.
>
> > We own a 2002 jag x-type 2.5 engine..... had it about a year and a
> > half....so far its needed a new radio because the display was missing a
> line
> > or two of its display.... its also needed to have the a/c ground wire
> > tightened as its come loose, and now (just today) we picked it up from
> > needing a blower motor.
> > If you are considering buying one, also consider buying the extended
> > warantee. We bought one and have needed it. Its not the extended
> warrantee
> > from jaguar, so ours is not all inclusive, but it does include much of the
> > vehicle (its one of the better ones). I was told (by the jag service guy)
> > that the jag extended warrantee covers pretty much bumper to bumper where
> > others do not, but that may just have been sales talk out of his mouth....
> > Are we happy with it? Well my wife loves the car... im not that
> > impressed.. but to me, I don't get impressed that easily with vehicles
> these
> > days. I can't speak for newer years, and I can't say ours is a lemon, but
> > if we didn't have the warrantee, the car would be history by now....parts
> > are not cheap for it.
> >
> > Hope this helps..
> >
> > Fwed
> >
> >

It's not a lemon, but a typical FORD.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:55 pm
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If it's a 2002 and you've had it a year and a half, then someone else owned
it for a couple years before that- maybe they got rid of it for a reason.

> We own a 2002 jag x-type 2.5 engine..... had it about a year and a
> half....so far its needed a new radio because the display was missing a
line
> or two of its display.... its also needed to have the a/c ground wire
> tightened as its come loose, and now (just today) we picked it up from
> needing a blower motor.
> If you are considering buying one, also consider buying the extended
> warantee. We bought one and have needed it. Its not the extended
warrantee
> from jaguar, so ours is not all inclusive, but it does include much of the
> vehicle (its one of the better ones). I was told (by the jag service guy)
> that the jag extended warrantee covers pretty much bumper to bumper where
> others do not, but that may just have been sales talk out of his mouth....
> Are we happy with it? Well my wife loves the car... im not that
> impressed.. but to me, I don't get impressed that easily with vehicles
these
> days. I can't speak for newer years, and I can't say ours is a lemon, but
> if we didn't have the warrantee, the car would be history by now....parts
> are not cheap for it.
>
> Hope this helps..
>
> Fwed
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:00 pm
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Yawn
"Blake Dodson" wrote in message

>
> JimInsolo wrote:
>> If it's a 2002 and you've had it a year and a half, then someone else
>> owned
>> it for a couple years before that- maybe they got rid of it for a reason.
>>
>> > We own a 2002 jag x-type 2.5 engine..... had it about a year and
>> > a
>> > half....so far its needed a new radio because the display was missing a
>> line
>> > or two of its display.... its also needed to have the a/c ground wire
>> > tightened as its come loose, and now (just today) we picked it up from
>> > needing a blower motor.
>> > If you are considering buying one, also consider buying the
>> > extended
>> > warantee. We bought one and have needed it. Its not the extended
>> warrantee
>> > from jaguar, so ours is not all inclusive, but it does include much of
>> > the
>> > vehicle (its one of the better ones). I was told (by the jag service
>> > guy)
>> > that the jag extended warrantee covers pretty much bumper to bumper
>> > where
>> > others do not, but that may just have been sales talk out of his
>> > mouth....
>> > Are we happy with it? Well my wife loves the car... im not that
>> > impressed.. but to me, I don't get impressed that easily with vehicles
>> these
>> > days. I can't speak for newer years, and I can't say ours is a lemon,
>> > but
>> > if we didn't have the warrantee, the car would be history by
>> > now....parts
>> > are not cheap for it.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps..
>> >
>> > Fwed
>> >
>> >
>
> It's not a lemon, but a typical FORD.
>
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fweddybear

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:17 pm
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I am sure they did. On the other hand, a buddy of mine leases a new vette
every two years and just turns it in for a new one, even if there is nothing
wrong with it. Chances are he had been having problems with it along the
way, but he could have also just wanted a newer jag. It was hard to tell
when buying the car.
I buy alot of vehicles used....many have been just fine, and I've
bouight some new cars and can say I've had great luck with all but one (it
was such a lemon, I should have been able to smell it before I bought
it...ha)

As far as the jag goes..... I would still consider an extended warrantee
if the car doesn't have one...mainly because it will pay for
itself....eventually.... think about it.. even the tranny falls on the
ground, with the warrantee, you will be covered instead of paying another
ton of money to have the thing fixed...

Fwed

"JimInsolo" wrote in message

> If it's a 2002 and you've had it a year and a half, then someone else
> owned
> it for a couple years before that- maybe they got rid of it for a reason.
>
>> We own a 2002 jag x-type 2.5 engine..... had it about a year and a
>> half....so far its needed a new radio because the display was missing a
> line
>> or two of its display.... its also needed to have the a/c ground wire
>> tightened as its come loose, and now (just today) we picked it up from
>> needing a blower motor.
>> If you are considering buying one, also consider buying the extended
>> warantee. We bought one and have needed it. Its not the extended
> warrantee
>> from jaguar, so ours is not all inclusive, but it does include much of
>> the
>> vehicle (its one of the better ones). I was told (by the jag service
>> guy)
>> that the jag extended warrantee covers pretty much bumper to bumper where
>> others do not, but that may just have been sales talk out of his
>> mouth....
>> Are we happy with it? Well my wife loves the car... im not that
>> impressed.. but to me, I don't get impressed that easily with vehicles
> these
>> days. I can't speak for newer years, and I can't say ours is a lemon,
>> but
>> if we didn't have the warrantee, the car would be history by now....parts
>> are not cheap for it.
>>
>> Hope this helps..
>>
>> Fwed
>>
>>
>
>
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fweddybear

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:18 pm
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"Blake Dodson" wrote in message

>
> JimInsolo wrote:
>> If it's a 2002 and you've had it a year and a half, then someone else
>> owned
>> it for a couple years before that- maybe they got rid of it for a reason.
>>
>> > We own a 2002 jag x-type 2.5 engine..... had it about a year and
>> > a
>> > half....so far its needed a new radio because the display was missing a
>> line
>> > or two of its display.... its also needed to have the a/c ground wire
>> > tightened as its come loose, and now (just today) we picked it up from
>> > needing a blower motor.
>> > If you are considering buying one, also consider buying the
>> > extended
>> > warantee. We bought one and have needed it. Its not the extended
>> warrantee
>> > from jaguar, so ours is not all inclusive, but it does include much of
>> > the
>> > vehicle (its one of the better ones). I was told (by the jag service
>> > guy)
>> > that the jag extended warrantee covers pretty much bumper to bumper
>> > where
>> > others do not, but that may just have been sales talk out of his
>> > mouth....
>> > Are we happy with it? Well my wife loves the car... im not that
>> > impressed.. but to me, I don't get impressed that easily with vehicles
>> these
>> > days. I can't speak for newer years, and I can't say ours is a lemon,
>> > but
>> > if we didn't have the warrantee, the car would be history by
>> > now....parts
>> > are not cheap for it.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps..
>> >
>> > Fwed
>> >
>> >
>
> It's not a lemon, but a typical FORD.



yes... a glorified ford!!

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:24 am
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Don't do it by any fathom of the imagination. I have a 2004 x type which
has been a lemon from the beginning. I have never had so much trouble with
a car and such lousy service by both the dealer and the manufacturer. I
have gone through 3 front ends with a variety of problems. I have had to
complain of many sounds, thumps etc. After many visits to my dealer, we
were told that I broke a front strut through and through. Can you imagine?
That was after other failures in the front end. I would never
lease/purchase a Jag again. I cannot express this any stronger. Look at
the Japanese and German Brands.


wrote in message

> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
> driveway that may be challenging for the Corvette by next month.) My
> impression from the J.D. Powers Initial Quality Survey numbers is that
> 2002 and 2003 X-types had LOTS of problems, but that 2004 and 2005 were
> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
> might shed some light on this?
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:55 am
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I've got a X-type (front wheel drive - 2.0) which I bought second hand six
months ago. It's now none 70,000 miles (20,000 of mine) and hasn't put a
foot wrong.

"RPR" wrote in message

> Don't do it by any fathom of the imagination. I have a 2004 x type which
> has been a lemon from the beginning. I have never had so much trouble
> with a car and such lousy service by both the dealer and the manufacturer.
> I have gone through 3 front ends with a variety of problems. I have had
> to complain of many sounds, thumps etc. After many visits to my dealer,
> we were told that I broke a front strut through and through. Can you
> imagine? That was after other failures in the front end. I would never
> lease/purchase a Jag again. I cannot express this any stronger. Look at
> the Japanese and German Brands.
>
>
> wrote in message
>
>> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
>> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
>> driveway that may be challenging for the Corvette by next month.) My
>> impression from the J.D. Powers Initial Quality Survey numbers is that
>> 2002 and 2003 X-types had LOTS of problems, but that 2004 and 2005 were
>> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
>> might shed some light on this?
>>
>
>
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C.R. Krieger

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:17 pm
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clayton.RemoveThis@claytoncramer.com wrote:
> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
> driveway that may be challenging for the Corvette by next month.) My
> impression from the J.D. Powers Initial Quality Survey numbers is that
> 2002 and 2003 X-types had LOTS of problems, but that 2004 and 2005 were
> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
> might shed some light on this?

After 14 years in Audi Quattros, we have had an early 2002 3.0 Sport
5-speed X-Type (10/01 delivery) with ~78,000 miles on it since early
2003 (with ~21,000 miles). We have had *no* major complaints. It has
never stranded anyone nor has any important system failed. One of the
things that the Power Survey would probably pick up is the recalcitrant
defroster vent fascias (on top of the dash) that won't stay snapped
down in place. If this bothers you, don't buy it; they haven't fixed
it yet and the cars *all* have it. I consider it a very minor thing
that doesn't affect my enjoyment of the car.

Jaguar dealership service *does* border on the obscenely expensive (and
there are damn few alternatives), but you'll find your treatment better
than any Chevy dealer can offer (Ask your wife how she feels about
waiting in a customer lounge approximately as nice as the Waldorf
Astoria's lobby - only the exotic coffees, juice, water, and
fresh-baked cookies are free.), even if you do have a 'Vette. The
original Jaguar warranty/full service expires at 50K or 4 years.
Several minor issues were fixed under it, but none were anything I
think I'd have ever noticed (One was a shift boot replacement!?). I
found it to be quite complete.

Since then, I have changed the original rear pads (~$350 @ ~60K; the
front ones are *still good*!) and dropped ~$500 on a front ABS sensor &
line problem that was hard to diagnose and was throwing odd 'check
engine' codes. Other than that, the car has been wonderful. It is
driven year-round by my wife. I use a set of Dunlop Winter M3s in
winter and it will do amazing things with the traction control engaged
(you can always turn it off to do *crazy stupid* things if you want -
and I have). I understand the autoboxes have been more problematic,
but I have no experience with them. The engine (both 2.5 and 3.0, in
the US) is a lovely V6 with Jaguar-modified heads and intake on the
durable Ford Duratec. I've seen almost no complaints whatsoever about
it nor about the Gen II Mondeo-based suspension. Some early models had
a 'screeching' noise from the rear end or driveline. Ours has not,
unless that brief noise when it was around -20F was it. I'm not
exactly 'easy' on a car, but this one stands up to everything I've
thrown at it.

My own winter driver is an '01 Grand Cherokee while my summer ride is
an '88 BMW 535is. Aside from some minor 'ground clearance' and
'passenger leg space' issues, the Jaguar is easily capable of doing
virtually everything either of the others does. I'd autocross it, but
she won't let me ... =:^(

And ... not that this matters in the least, but I am constantly amazed
by it ... people are unceasingly impressed with the name. Trust me;
I've been driving BMWs and Audis for decades and no one but the most
diehard car fanatic is any more impressed by them than by the mention
of the name "Jag-you-are".
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:55 pm
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I have a 2003 3.0 and have had no problems. Replace rear brakes that's it.
Runs great

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> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
> driveway that may be challenging for the Corvette by next month.) My
> impression from the J.D. Powers Initial Quality Survey numbers is that
> 2002 and 2003 X-types had LOTS of problems, but that 2004 and 2005 were
> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
> might shed some light on this?
>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:55 am
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I own a 2003 X with 39k miles and it runs perfect. I had to replace rear
brakes and regular schedule maintenance. Very happy with the purchase.


wrote in message

> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
> driveway that may be challenging for the Corvette by next month.) My
> impression from the J.D. Powers Initial Quality Survey numbers is that
> 2002 and 2003 X-types had LOTS of problems, but that 2004 and 2005 were
> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
> might shed some light on this?
>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:56 pm
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There is always going to be that Bad-Apple in the bunch. I purchased a
BMW 325 a few years back for $10k, then dumped another $5k into it when
the computer crashed, the radiator overheated and caused an engine
issue....So because of that I will never buy another BMW? No...That is
not the case. I own a 2002 X-Type and purchased it with about 32k
miles. It is now at 49k and the most important thing that I see is that
you get a Certified Manufacturers warranty. It does cover
bumper-to-bumper for 7 years or 100,000 miles (so now it is basically
over time-wise) but the warranty does not cover a few things. Our
Jaquar hood-ornament actually rusted at the attachment and then almost
fell off while driving. That was not covered. We replaced the tires
all-around. That was not covered. Everything else including
oil-changes, light bulbs, locking issues with the trunck (several times
went back for that), the moon-roof needed reprogramming, and car washes
are all free. We have enjoyed this car, feel very safe it it, the
all-wheel drive is excellent. Our only minor issues are that it gets
about 21 mpg (we would like to have 30 or 40 - ya right), it is abit
small inside with a 4 year old, it only has 1 cup-holder (wife and I
trade-off) and our model doesn't have heated seats. However, it is
probably the sharpest looking car in the neighborhood and shows as it is
a $30,000 new car. My car before this was a 1995 XJS Convertable (super
sharp) so I AM a Jag guy. I don't think they have a SUV, but if they
did, I would probably buy it. Keep up your maintenance and enjoy the
car. It is not a glorified Ford, rather the car is superior european
manufacturing - How many other cars windows all go down with a touch-of
a button (not many), How many other cars look so sharp (not many)....
Just my two cents worth. Michael at Aspenologies :D


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Thanks for that inventory of your stuff- you forgot to mention that the
single cup holder makes your Starbucks " experience" so much less
invigorating.
"Aspenologies" wrote in
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>
> There is always going to be that Bad-Apple in the bunch. I purchased a
> BMW 325 a few years back for $10k, then dumped another $5k into it when
> the computer crashed, the radiator overheated and caused an engine
> issue....So because of that I will never buy another BMW? No...That is
> not the case. I own a 2002 X-Type and purchased it with about 32k
> miles. It is now at 49k and the most important thing that I see is that
> you get a Certified Manufacturers warranty. It does cover
> bumper-to-bumper for 7 years or 100,000 miles (so now it is basically
> over time-wise) but the warranty does not cover a few things. Our
> Jaquar hood-ornament actually rusted at the attachment and then almost
> fell off while driving. That was not covered. We replaced the tires
> all-around. That was not covered. Everything else including
> oil-changes, light bulbs, locking issues with the trunck (several times
> went back for that), the moon-roof needed reprogramming, and car washes
> are all free. We have enjoyed this car, feel very safe it it, the
> all-wheel drive is excellent. Our only minor issues are that it gets
> about 21 mpg (we would like to have 30 or 40 - ya right), it is abit
> small inside with a 4 year old, it only has 1 cup-holder (wife and I
> trade-off) and our model doesn't have heated seats. However, it is
> probably the sharpest looking car in the neighborhood and shows as it is
> a $30,000 new car. My car before this was a 1995 XJS Convertable (super
> sharp) so I AM a Jag guy. I don't think they have a SUV, but if they
> did, I would probably buy it. Keep up your maintenance and enjoy the
> car. It is not a glorified Ford, rather the car is superior european
> manufacturing - How many other cars windows all go down with a touch-of
> a button (not many), How many other cars look so sharp (not many)....
> Just my two cents worth. Michael at Aspenologies Very Happy
>
>
> --
> Aspenologies
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>
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